“Romina and Alfa understood that the kitchen was the center of power and dominated the house, but always with that populist criterion of feeding so that they vote for you. Alfa and Romina are two great Argentine populists, which is why many fall in love with them. They are more or less the same. So much so that one calls himself a liberal and anti-Kirchnerist and the other a Kirchnerist Camporista. In Big Brother it’s ‘I feed you and clean everything for you, but you have to obey’. In politics, ‘I feed you, I will lower your social plans, but you must be submissive and vote for me'”.
Ceferino CrimeAt the request of clariondoes an analysis of the two strongest participants of Big Brother (Telephone, Sunday to Thursday at 10.15pm). A long time ago, very few would have thought of consulting the journalist and political scientist for a reality show, but since he joined GH El Debate, everything has changed.
-On the street or in the gatherings what do they ask you more, who wins Big Brother or for the political and social present of the country?
-In general, they ask me much more about Big Brother than about the political situation. Which is understandable because GH has a very high rating and cuts across all age and social sectors. Besides, I myself feel bored with politics. We have been campaigning for a long time, in the midst of a crisis, where there are no attractive proposals and leadership. And people are bored. And me too. And that’s one of the reasons I’m there (for El Debate).
The one who summoned Ceferino to the GH was Santiago del Moro, with whom he had worked intractable (Americas, 2012-2022). It is a tradition that El Debate has at least one member who comes from another field, who is quite foreign to show cycles and can provide another perspective and thus delve into that sociological experiment which is also reality. And this is the role of Ceferino, who shares the task with Gastón Trezeguet, Sol Pérez, Marisa Brel, Nancy Pazos and Laura Ubfal, with whom he usually has spicy twists.
“I loved the proposal. First because I was leaving the political programmes, because I was bored, because the programs are very much aligned for or against the government. And it was also a very important program and channel, and together with Del Moro, who is the best host for me. So I said ‘Why not?’ It seems to me that you always have to take risks, this keeps you alive. I immediately said yes, but then I discussed it at home and my wife said no, but then I managed to convince her,” says Ceferino, who launched the book in 2022. massacre in the dining room (Ed. Sudamericana), in which he mentions the Montoneros attack on the Federal Security Superintendency that killed 23 people, in July 1976.
Why didn’t she like the idea?
-I thought I was going to get a lot of exposure and you’ve seen how fierce the networks are. There are so many enemies and hatred always has to be channeled. Later, when I told them about it, my daughters were very happy, because Big Brother reaches a lot of young people and teenagers, and that’s an audience that interests me. I would like that audience to see more of my work and, for example, read my books.
-And the networks were fierce? Do you get more haters now or in your time as a speaker on Intractables?
-The program looks much more than intractable and then there is more interaction in the networks. Big Brother is very attractive. I think there is an Argentinian passion to repress and take sides for everything, and that in the networks it is observed in the fanaticism that the participants arouse in some people. And it would be more comfortable for them if it were aligned, but I don’t have any favourites, I don’t care if anyone wins and I have no interest in meeting anyone. But I try to stay a little to the side, I have other activities, I like playing tennis, I read a lot, I’m also a husband and father, I have things to do at home. I was not obsessed with the program, I think you have to live, do other things than journalism.
-Are you not addicted to criticism or crosses with a partner?
-NO. The work ends when the cameras go off, I learned this from Del Moro, who leaves in a hurry as soon as the program ends. On television what you said just remained, nothing can be done. I prepare myself not to talk much, but I try to launch a clear idea that is understood. And then I go.
-This to provide a different look became clear when Alfa left the house and they took him to El Debate. I remember that you expressed yourself against the “moral class” that many of your companions gave him…
-Alpha is a character. He was a protagonist and an antagonist, the good and the bad, that’s why he was important in the house. He drove them all crazy and that made him attractive. I also learned that they are people subjected to a social experiment, with extraordinary conditions, isolated, they hear and see everything 24/7, with stimuli, so what they say or do is a question to be analyzed in that context. One wrong sentence, a fight… everything has to be taken with a grain of salt. You don’t have to demonize a person.
“Machismo, homophobia, bullying, hate the old… all these issues came up in this GH. Yes, you have to download a message about it. But demonizing someone and saying ‘you are homophobic, you are sexist…’ seems too much, we need to pose the problem, debate it, but leave behind that attitude that sometimes comes from priests, from being in the pulpit, which is seen a lot in political programs, to understand that they are people locked up to play, that sometimes they don’t remember not even what they said in a conversation”, completes Ceferino, who analyzes Alfa’s controversial statements about Alberto Fernández as “something inconsistent, without rhyme or reason”.
“Alfa is a great storyteller but he also says a lot of balls and unverifiable things”, he details on the political-television incident which ended with a denial by the president through Gabriela Cerutti.
-Why does politics enter Big Brother?
-Even politicians are bored with themselves and many live in a world of their own. They have solved everyday problems and are involved in things they shouldn’t be involved in, when they should be concerned with solving, for example, lowering the poverty rate, which is over 40%. It’s very nice that they are entertained with Big Brother, they are welcome, but it seems to me that they are not doing what is really important.
-Why do you think Romina doesn’t talk so much about her political past?
-Romina is a great player, she is very smart. She has come up with an argument, which is her past in politics. She feared her rivals in Moreno would torpedo her with inside gossip. She was afraid of being left behind, even the way politicians fall in love with people. But she owes everything to politics. She was from a neighborhood, Cuartel V, she was married, until in 2015 she met the mayor Walter Festa, they fell in love and she became secretary for production development, and later a candidate for deputy and national deputy. You went from barracks V to live in the countryside. She owes everything to politics but she has not been able to prove it. Politics enters Big Brother when she says that after splitting from Festa she was financially ill and that she was having trouble making ends meet.
Have you tried to victimize yourself?
-He meant ‘I’m one of you, we have the same problems’. But the truth is that he had a contract to advise the president of the Social Security Institute of the province of Buenos Aires, who is a camper, and was earning very well. In other words, they weren’t doing so badly… They have such a bad conscience that for this reason they say ‘I have nothing, the political thread didn’t interest me’. And she was a deputy for the political thread, because Walter Festa at that time had the power, she had no merits. So much so that Romina is one of the many deputies who are there to make up the numbers, she has never spoken in office or presented her own bill in two years. She and she is such a good player that she realizes she doesn’t need to say it. Outside she has many people who defend her and she is doing very well. I think she will be in the final but I don’t know if she will win.
Charles Hurd is an entertainment journalist for News Rebeat. He brings a fresh and engaging voice to the world of pop culture, covering the latest developments in film, television, music, and more.